This week’s article will be talking about the topic of various ways of counterstriking against an attack. Different masters and traditions handle this differently, depending on their core tactics and views on what distances and timing to use as the basis for the general fighting. Some even mix different solutions in varying proportions, combining different and sometimes disparate styles into their own personal style, with Joachim Meyer being a prime example of this.

Kinetic energy, opposing strikes, leverage, Versetzen and distance

Basically there are three different methods (1) for handling the opponent’s strikes with a counterstrike:

1. Opposing kinetic power
– Meaning you strike in direct opposition to the incoming strike, much like e.g. George Silver and Joachim Meyer sometimes advises us to use kinetic power rather than leverage, e.g. with the Entrüsthauw or Rüsthauw and the Dempffhauw – cuts that are made with all sword types in Meyer’s treatise.

2. Deflecting power
– Meaning you cut against an incoming cut at an angle, thus weakening the opponent’s cut, for e.g. with a Zornhauw against a Scheitel/Oberhauw, or a Scheitel/Oberhauw against a Zornhauw. The use of most Maisterhäuwe (Master Cut) and the Versetzen (Displacing Cut) is designed around this.

3. Power through leverage
– Meaning you cut in a way that instantly puts the opponent’s weak part (red/orange below) on  your strong part (green/blue or the cross). For example, against a Zornhauw you can cut an Unterhauw or a Zwerchhauw ending up in Ochs/Hengen.

There really are no other ways of counterstriking with blade contact when the opponent’s strike actually risks hitting you. With that said, you can also step back or aside and void the opponent’s attack and counterstrike in Nachreissen, perhaps even using a weak bind to fool the opponent with a Schnappen (Snapping). But, if you actually risk being hit and can’t or won’t step, then one of the three methods above have to be used.



Opposing kinetic power

Looking more closely at this method, you can use it in two ways, either properly or deceptively. The first means to actually parry the strike with an opposing counterstrike, the second means that you give the impression that you will do so, but instead feint, for instance by parrying and then making your next strike as a Schnappen, by using the force from the opponent’s strike to power and speed up your counterstrike, letting your strike fly around full circle to the other high opening.

Using it properly, and not as a feint, means you will have to use equal or more power, or else your parry will be weak and possible to cut through. Slipping back a bit, and moving the head out of the way is also a good idea as you are striking after your opponent, meaning you will be behind him/her in time.

Meyer describes it as:

The first is when you first put off your opponent’s strike or send it away with a cut, and then rush at his body with a cut, having taken his defence.

… you need to know that the High Cut suppresses all other cuts downward from above, namely the Wrath, Middle or Horizontal, and Low Cut, in this manner: spring out from his cut, and at the same time cut strongly at his cut as it comes in, so that if you hit correctly, you weaken his weapon so much that you can well cut the second one at his body before he fully recovers.

Now as the High Cut suppresses all the other cuts downward from above, so it is driven off by the Wrath or Horizontal Cut; and the Low also takes out the High Cut upward, if it is done strongly and assisted with stepping out. (2)

Examples of this use can be seen e.g. in Meyer:

Now if he cuts from below against your left, then step out again toward his left, and cut with the long edge on top of his forte. (3)

When you stand in the right or left Wrath, and an opponent cuts at you from below, either to the right or left opening, then cut on it with the long edge from above (4)

Now if he should attack you from below, then fall with the long edge on top of his sword in the Longpoint. (5)

If an opponent cuts from above, then cut against him from your left from below with the long edge (6)

Lastly, if your opponent cuts from below, then fall on it from above with your long edge. (7)

…if an opponent delivers a Low Cut at you, then cut on top of his forte with your long edge so that you have your hands crooked or crosswise. (8)

This method is also commonly used with single hand swords, creating a pattern of strike-parry, strike-parry. This method should receive more focus even in our longsword fencing, I believe. Two-handed swords however, allow for other methods that can be used with reasonable control and safety. Which brings us to the next method.

Deflecting power

The next method is possibly the most commonly used in the “German” longsword fencing. Here you countercut at an angle, both aligning the blade and the edge in various ways. This protects not only you, but also your blade against the most of the impact as it is not done in direct opposition to the incoming cut.

Meyer describes it as;

The second way to parry is when you parry your opponent and hit him at the same time with a single stroke, which the combat masters of old especially praise as suitable. (9)

Almost all of the Maisterhäuwe are designed around this concept of a capacity for parrying and hitting simultanously and they exploit the same mechanical principles. A Krumphauw, a Zornhauw, an Oberhauw etc can all be done in a way that means that they cut through the opponent’s strike and hit, depending on how you combine your choice of strike with that of your opponent, and depending on how you time and angle your strikes.

However, Meyer is quite explicit in defining precisely what cuts that are the best for this very purpose of parrying and hitting at the same time, and interestingly enough does so with examples of strikes that automatically give you better leverage. which brings us to the next method:

Advantage through leverage

Any cut can be transformed so you gain more leverage in the bind, but some work in a direct way that automatically give you more leverage as you connect with the opponent’s blade. Meyer describes this with the following words:

Now the other parrying is when you simultaneously parry and hit; it happens with the reversed cuts, such as the Squinting Cut, Clashing, Crown, and Thwart Cut. (10)

So, the related cuts of Zwerchhauw, the Schielhauw, the Glützhauw and the Kronhauw are the best ones for this purpose, in Meyer’s opinion. And remember how Meyer tells us that half the fighting should be done with the Zwerch?

The Thwart is one of the chief master techniques [Meisterstuck] with the sword; for you shall know, if the Thwart did not exist in modern combat [‘fighting of today’], then fully half of it would go out the window, particularly when you are under the opponent’s sword, where you can no longer attack with long cuts through the Cross (11)

If this is true even for the older fencing before Meyer is hard to tell, but in Meyer’s case his advise is very clear and bears some careful consideration how we should apply this in our fighting.

Another important aspect to consider here is how this relates to keeping our hands safe, as these particular strikes do protect our hands well when executed correctly. Other strikes do not do this as well, which might explain why they are less used for Versetzen strikes that actually are intended to hit and parry at the same time. Still, cutting simultanously trying to parry and hit at once will always put your hands at more risk, which is likely why Meyer also advises us:

… so too it is no use to be overly aggressive with striking, or to cut in at the same time against his strokes recklessly as if with closed eyes, for this resembles not combat but rather a mindless peasants’ brawl. (12)

It should also be noted that some counterstrikes can begin like a displacing cut and then transform into a cut that uses leverage more, as either of you move closer. Things are not always, and excuse the pun, clear-cut.

Striking hard

This topic I believe is a commonly misunderstood one. Oftentimes it is claimed that striking with the point or the centre-of-percussion (c.o.p.) provides the hardest strikes, especially when you strike with the hands close together, per the advise given in the Hs.3227a treatise. However, this strongly relates to the blade type and the material you cut at. Most of our longswords are not forward-heavy and we see the same in many of the treatises, even early on like in Talhoffer and others. This means that striking hard with the point or the c.o.p. works well against soft targets, but not at hard ones. The implication of this is that such cuts work well against a neck or hands/wrists etc, but for a proper head cut you need to cut further in on the blade, closer to the middle, somewhere in the orange area of the blade in the image above.

One of the best examples of this is Paul Hektor Mair who consistently shows blod spurts with such head cuts in his treatise Opus Amplissimum de Arte Athletica (Cod.icon. 393) of ca 1550.


From Paul Hektor Mair’s Opus Amplissimum de Arte Athletica (Cod.icon. 393) of ca1550

These powerful cuts naturally require fighting at closer distance, which is also why we oftentimes see them used as the second cut, the Nachschlag, as the attacker moves closer after having been parried.

This kinetic power can of course also be used when deflecting or supressing the opponent’s cuts with the Maisterhäuwe as in the first two methods described in this article.

That’s it for this time. I hope you enjoyed reading this chapter and found some of it useful. Thanks to Dr. Jeffrey Forgeng and David Lindholm for providing us with great translations of these sources!

Next time we will begin to cover the topic of Types of cuts.

1. The stages of a fight and distance (Published)
2. Vor, Nach & Nachreissen (Published)
3. The Schweche, the Mittel and the Stercke (Published)
4. Fuhlen, Indes, Hard and Soft, Weak and Strong and if you like; just fuck it all. (Published)
5. Kinetic energy, leverage, Versetzen and distance (Published)
6. Types of cuts (Published)
7. Mentality and tactics (Published)
8. Mess with the mind, then with the body (Published)
9. The point of stances (Published)
10. Shifting Grips (Published)
11. Cutting
12. The Line and protecting the hands
13. Leaning
14. Stepping
15. The Zwerchhauw, the Wechselhauw and the Verfliegen
16. Flow and Combat application
17. Solo Exercises
18. Partner Exercises

Until next time, thank you for taking the time to read this and feel free to comment and share your ideas! Have a great weekend everyone!

Roger Norling


1. Actually, Meyer lists seven ways in the Rappier section, but they can be divided into three groups. Meyer describes them in the following words: “Seven types of parrying are found here, called, setting off (Absetzen), slicing off (Abschneiden), going through (Durchgehn), suppressing (Dempffen), hanging (Verhengen), barring (Sperren), and sending out or away with upright and with hanging blade (Außschlagen mit hangender Kling).” (2.68R).”

2. Meyer Joachim (1570): Gründliche Beschreibung der Freyen Ritterlichen und Adeligen Kunst des Fechtens (1.16R) Translation by Dr. Jeffrey L. Forgeng

2. Meyer Joachim (1570): Gründliche Beschreibung der Freyen Ritterlichen und Adeligen Kunst des Fechtens (1.32r.2) Translation by Dr. Jeffrey L. Forgeng

3. Meyer Joachim (1570): Gründliche Beschreibung der Freyen Ritterlichen und Adeligen Kunst des Fechtens (1.32v.1) Translation by Dr. Jeffrey L. Forgeng

4. Meyer Joachim (1570): Gründliche Beschreibung der Freyen Ritterlichen und Adeligen Kunst des Fechtens (1.40r.3) Translation by Dr. Jeffrey L. Forgeng

5. Meyer Joachim (1570): Gründliche Beschreibung der Freyen Ritterlichen und Adeligen Kunst des Fechtens (1.43r.2) Translation by Dr. Jeffrey L. Forgeng

6. Meyer Joachim (1570): Gründliche Beschreibung der Freyen Ritterlichen und Adeligen Kunst des Fechtens (1.49v.5) Translation by Dr. Jeffrey L. Forgeng

7. Meyer Joachim (1570): Gründliche Beschreibung der Freyen Ritterlichen und Adeligen Kunst des Fechtens (1.50r.1) Translation by Dr. Jeffrey L. Forgeng

8. Meyer Joachim (1570): Gründliche Beschreibung der Freyen Ritterlichen und Adeligen Kunst des Fechtens (1.16R) Translation by Dr. Jeffrey L. Forgeng

9. Meyer Joachim (1570): Gründliche Beschreibung der Freyen Ritterlichen und Adeligen Kunst des Fechtens (1.16R) Translation by Dr. Jeffrey L. Forgeng

10. Meyer Joachim (1570): Gründliche Beschreibung der Freyen Ritterlichen und Adeligen Kunst des Fechtens (1.55R) Translation by Dr. Jeffrey L. Forgeng

11. Meyer Joachim (1570): Gründliche Beschreibung der Freyen Ritterlichen und Adeligen Kunst des Fechtens (1.15R) Translation by Dr. Jeffrey L. Forgeng