Polearms combat

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Polearms combat

Post by Roger N » Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:09 pm

Some images of polearms combat
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Re: Polearms combat

Post by Hugh Knight » Sat Dec 26, 2009 8:16 pm

Here are some other pollarm pictures:
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Post by Hugh Knight » Sat Dec 26, 2009 8:21 pm

And some more:
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Re: Polearms combat

Post by Roger N » Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:18 pm

And here is a favourite of mine by Hans Holbein the younger, "Das Schlechten Krieg", sometime early 1500.
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Re: Polearms combat

Post by Shay Roberts » Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:16 am

Roger Norling wrote:And here is a favourite of mine by Hans Holbein the younger, "Das Schlechten Krieg", sometime early 1500.
Pretty wild illustration! Is that supposed to be a basket hilt in the lower right (at the edge of the page)?
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Post by Roger N » Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:13 am

It certainly looks so, doesn't it? The etching is from the first half of the 16th century and from what I remember, early baskethilts like the schiavona were in use then. The Sinclair Hilt is about 100 years later and the same goes for the Wallon sword, which is otherwise would have thought that we see here, since it was Suiss.

Still, it is hard to tell, since we see so little of the weapon. Could be some form of dussack or messer.
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Re: Polearms combat

Post by Roger N » Mon Dec 28, 2009 8:51 pm

Here is an interesting manuscript from 1641 that I haven't come across before, "The Welshmans postures, or, The true manner how her doe exercise her company of souldiers in her own countrey in a warlike manners with some other new-found experiments: and pretty-extravagants sitting for all christian podies to caknow." I love these long titles... :D

http://openlibrary.org/b/OL16875182M/VV ... xperiments

http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/2340010
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Re: Polearms combat

Post by Eric Hejdström » Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:42 pm

Shay Roberts wrote:
Roger Norling wrote:And here is a favourite of mine by Hans Holbein the younger, "Das Schlechten Krieg", sometime early 1500.
Pretty wild illustration! Is that supposed to be a basket hilt in the lower right (at the edge of the page)?

I belive it's not really a baskethilt per say, more likely a swiss sabre. I've seen several peices like this before and in differnt sizes. Something similar is this Lutel version found here:
http://www.lutel.eu/?p=productsMore&iPr ... abre-15023
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Re: Polearms combat

Post by Shay Roberts » Wed Dec 30, 2009 12:51 am

Ah! Nice weapon.
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Re: Polearms combat

Post by Roger N » Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:03 am

Eric Hejdström wrote: I belive it's not really a baskethilt per say, more likely a swiss sabre. I've seen several peices like this before and in differnt sizes. Something similar is this Lutel version found here:
http://www.lutel.eu/?p=productsMore&iPr ... abre-15023
Could be, but it could also be something like this.
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Or Voghterr's copies of Holbein's "Dance of Death"
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And it IS a baskethilt, although an early version like the doge, the schiavona, the walloon and the sinclair hilts.

Swiss Walloon sword
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But, we're probably talking about the same type of weapon... :)
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